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Maaaaowm Ogeko
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2013.10.18 01:44:00 -
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Warcraft III > WoW
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Maaaaowm Ogeko
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.18 12:05:00 -
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sally Deninard wrote:wow is now at 7.7 million , 92% of its 8.3 million 6 months previous.
eve`s weekly login around may june pre expansion is a reasonable 37000. Before the random spike it had fallen to 33000 89% of its june values.
Now while you all cuddle up in the fact that this is normal trending in eve, it`s also burnout time in wow.
The numbers would certainly suggest that wow is still managing to retain a larger percentage of it`s playerbase than eve.
And considering how large that playerbase is, that is an achievement.
WoW is starting to show its age a little, for sure. I stopped playing in January of this year, but my spouse still plays from time to time, so I keep up with what's going on. My take on the rapid loss of subs this year: the developers wanted to herds people away from farming dungeon content endlessly for welfare epics, and then sitting around in the cities bored, as happened in the previous two expansions. How did they do this? By putting in dailies. Lots of dailies. Dailies tied to faction reputation and achievements, with really nice gear rewards available on top of that. These rewards and achievements weren't mandatory, but much of the WoW playerbase are either completist types who feel they need to get all the things, or raiding min/maxers who feel like they must get all the things.
The result? Mass frustration and burnout. There was much venting and raging about this on the official WoW forums in fact. It's the reason I quit. I was in the completist category. I enjoyed the dailies at first, but I found myself overwhelmed and exhausted. I left. I may go back someday; I love Blizzard's games. They make mistakes, but their games are just flat-out incredible.
And I have to admit it -- sometimes I miss being able to hop on the back of a drake and soar over Northrend.
One more thing. People on the outside laugh at the "childishness" of the "pandas" in the last expansion without understanding that the Pandaren have been in the game since its RTS days and that their storyline is in fact rather depressing and violent. Anyway, I have to laugh at the elitist harumphing on this one, it reads like elderly Victorian ladies at a garden party gossiping about someone else's bad manners.
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Maaaaowm Ogeko
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:00:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Gerald Sphinx wrote:But then he dismissed the article as "completely false" by looking at how many subscribers are in WoW (about 2 million or so) compared to Eve (500,000+) saying that WoW is better just because it has more subscribers.
It seems to me this guy is closed minded. This is a case of a common mistake people make - that just because something is popular, that means it's good quality.
(All we have to do is look at a game like League of Legends to disprove the popularity = quality assumption. *shudder* )
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Maaaaowm Ogeko
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.18 15:49:00 -
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Atlantis Fuanan wrote:I must say, i have tested WoW aswell once. Basicly it's just the basic 101 MMO you see around these days. Leveling up for high level stuff (as armor for female chars gets thinner and thinner while providing more armors O.o), explore new areas and fight for loot. Some people seem in the need to have a kind of notification that he or she did well. If anyone of you ever has played COD or BF 3+ you know what i mean.
Buh? WoW is nothing like either of those games. Also, you think making all of EVE NRDS would make it better? The hell?
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Maaaaowm Ogeko
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2013.10.18 16:14:00 -
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Black Canary Jnr wrote:Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote:Atlantis Fuanan wrote:I must say, i have tested WoW aswell once. Basicly it's just the basic 101 MMO you see around these days. Leveling up for high level stuff (as armor for female chars gets thinner and thinner while providing more armors O.o), explore new areas and fight for loot. Some people seem in the need to have a kind of notification that he or she did well. If anyone of you ever has played COD or BF 3+ you know what i mean. Buh? WoW is nothing like either of those games. Also, you think making all of EVE NRDS would make it better? The hell? NRDS is 'eve on hard mode'. NBSI is for pussies. Provi 4 lyf.
NRDS is EVE on administrative nightmare mode. 
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Maaaaowm Ogeko
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.18 18:11:00 -
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Gerald Sphinx wrote:Holy crap!
Five pages in just a two-day span. What's amazing here is that almost every reply posted here is really civilized and constructive. I was afraid that this thread would devolve into an an out-of-control "(insert MMO) is better than (insert competitor)" argument. Thankfully it hasn't.
Well, you didn't start off in a trolly or combative tone, and WoW is almost as old as EVE, so nearly everyone is familiar with it. Hell, the Warcraft franchise goes all the way back to 1994.
Enjoy your trial. Know that in 2010, Blizzard completely redid the 1-60 content. These lower levels are ridiculously dumbed down as a result, far too much so IMO, even though the questing can be fun and the writing is good. If you stick it out to around level 58, you can experience the last bits of un-dumbed down old school WoW PvE - the zones that make up Outland. Northrend (70-80) is still the best zone in the game IMO. Cataclysm content (80-85) is awful but mercifully short. Pandaria (85-90) is wonderful.
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Maaaaowm Ogeko
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.01 20:12:00 -
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Gerald Sphinx wrote:ORIGINAL POST UPDATED
Well, hate on WoW all you want; at least Rob Pardo, Chris Metzen, Samwise and the gang don't openly hang out with real-money racketeers who run gambling businesses out of their game.
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